Steve Harvey has given the blue print, why won`t women listen?
Steve Harvey wrote his book to help women make better decisions about relationships, I think it was a sincere attempt to better inform women how we think.. Steve did not make up how think and how we operate. My issue is I talk to women about some of the things Steve has said and they still don`t get it, they think just because they think a certain situation should be as they feel it should be, Steve is in error. I have to say; Steve gave a pretty good description of how we think although you might find slight variations. We pretty much stay to the line he laid out. For instance men pretty know what title they want to give you after 6 months thats abolutely true.. Men fish for women some are throw backs and some are keepers, the keepers are usually the ones it was harder to land..Just a lil bit to start the conversation, Fellas help me out.
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Permalink Reply by Jacqueline "Jackie"Hammonds on -
Well I read the book twice and my personal opinion about the book is.How can someone who's been married 3 times and have 7 kids give someone advice on relationships.(especially men).Now don't get me wrong,because there were some go points that he made in the book.But a person have to use there own common sense to realize what to do and what not to do Well.when he was married to his 2 wife he constantly bragged about her,now he's married again(and he does the same about this woman)So tell me,is this some one men want to take advice from.All we have to do is be straight up about what we want from one another when we meet,and be adults about the whole situation and life,and our relationships will be a whole lot better.Just use common sense,and alway follow you own ijudgement and then you can't blame no one but (yourself)JUST MY OPINION
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Permalink Reply by SeriousPage on -
Your right about using common sense, I get what your saying about Steve being married 3 times. Steve being married 3 times does that deminish what he says about how men think, I don`t think so. So often we get into if a person has not lived perfectly he does not know what he is talking about. I beg to differ, often the best advice comes from someone who has lived this life we are trying to live so he`s not perfect. But neither are none of us who really try to live life. Yes he bragged on his 2nd wife and is bragging on his 3rd wife as he should be, you should lift up who you are with right now, as he has signed up to be her mate; he better brag on her. Whats he supposed to do treat her bitterly cause wife#2 didn`t work out. That relationsip is dead the new one has life. I give you this Steves book is not perfect , he didn`t write it to be perfect but as a general guideline how we think. The only book written that is perfect is the Bible, Steves book is for those who pay it no attention.
Jacqueline "Jackie"Hammonds said:Well I read the book twice and my personal opinion about the book is.How can someone who's been married 3 times and have 7 kids give someone advice on relationships.(especially men).Now don't get me wrong,because there were some go points that he made in the book.But a person have to use there own common sense to realize what to do and what not to do Well.when he was married to his 2 wife he constantly bragged about her,now he's married again(and he does the same about this woman)So tell me,is this some one men want to take advice from.All we have to do is be straight up about what we want from one another when we meet,and be adults about the whole situation and life,and our relationships will be a whole lot better.Just use common sense,and alway follow you own ijudgement and then you can't blame no one but (yourself)JUST MY OPINION
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Permalink Reply by Darrell Joyce on -
Mya (witchyofineass), this statement cannot be more wrong. A man doesn't have to be a woman to understand her struggles. Most complaints women have are directly related to the men they allow into their lives. So, i'm not champion for Steve like the kat who posted the thread, but you don't have to be a woman to know how many women think, behave, want and expect. Hell, many women feel they are more in tune with gay men anyway, so all you have to do is think like a woman or look at what you may do as a man to manipulate, deceive or attract them and you'll have a good insight into how to deal with and understand them. But, the key is, for men, to not try to understand women, just the behaviors of the one in your life.
As for writing a book for men, I did that 3 times.
As for a book women should read that will give them true insight into how THEY think and how men perceive them. I did that, too. 2 times.
No matter your message or motive, people today are so stupid that, if you don't package it right, they won't receive it. Because Tyler Perry caters everything he does to single, black, churchgoers, baby mommas, drama queens and low-level humor, he caters to a niche. His message is bland, but frosted like a cake with the "I'm just like one of the girls!" flavor to make women go wild over his stuff, and black men of any intelligence scratch their head at the relevance or validity to what he does.
When my first book got published and i was doing radio all over the place, every single female caller that called in hated me. Without reading the book, knowing me, or understanding the concept of personal accountability. Steve Harvey kissed women's ass with that book, and went on Oprah to further pull the "I'm just like one of the girls. I'm on YOUR side!" stuff, and black women ate it up! THen, after he sold a million copies, half sit around talking about his book wasn't no different, better or more informative than anything else they've ever read., Which proves women go for hype. "Well, if Oprah had him on, it must be good!" or "He's famous, so he should know what he's talking about." Hell, Denzel Washington could write a relationship book, and every woman on this board would run out and buy it.
Bottom line: most women ain't hungry enough to get fed like they need to, so they nibble on bullshit until they hit rock bottom.
One love!
myalovely1 said:Because men have been trying to tell women what they should do. Steve Harvey is not a woman so no matter what he writes in a book he just can not relate to our struggles.
Why don't men write a relationship blue print manuel for men, it's seem men need more help in that department??
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Permalink Reply by TheTruthForReal on -
well darrell, just speak how you feel it....lol!
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Permalink Reply by SeriousPage on
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My man, you done got things going now this subject may run til xmas
Darrell Joyce said:Mya (witchyofineass), this statement cannot be more wrong. A man doesn't have to be a woman to understand her struggles. Most complaints women have are directly related to the men they allow into their lives. So, i'm not champion for Steve like the kat who posted the thread, but you don't have to be a woman to know how many women think, behave, want and expect. Hell, many women feel they are more in tune with gay men anyway, so all you have to do is think like a woman or look at what you may do as a man to manipulate, deceive or attract them and you'll have a good insight into how to deal with and understand them. But, the key is, for men, to not try to understand women, just the behaviors of the one in your life.
As for writing a book for men, I did that 3 times.
As for a book women should read that will give them true insight into how THEY think and how men perceive them. I did that, too. 2 times.
No matter your message or motive, people today are so stupid that, if you don't package it right, they won't receive it. Because Tyler Perry caters everything he does to single, black, churchgoers, baby mommas, drama queens and low-level humor, he caters to a niche. His message is bland, but frosted like a cake with the "I'm just like one of the girls!" flavor to make women go wild over his stuff, and black men of any intelligence scratch their head at the relevance or validity to what he does.
When my first book got published and i was doing radio all over the place, every single female caller that called in hated me. Without reading the book, knowing me, or understanding the concept of personal accountability. Steve Harvey kissed women's ass with that book, and went on Oprah to further pull the "I'm just like one of the girls. I'm on YOUR side!" stuff, and black women ate it up! THen, after he sold a million copies, half sit around talking about his book wasn't no different, better or more informative than anything else they've ever read., Which proves women go for hype. "Well, if Oprah had him on, it must be good!" or "He's famous, so he should know what he's talking about." Hell, Denzel Washington could write a relationship book, and every woman on this board would run out and buy it.
Bottom line: most women ain't hungry enough to get fed like they need to, so they nibble on bullshit until they hit rock bottom.
One love!
myalovely1 said:Because men have been trying to tell women what they should do. Steve Harvey is not a woman so no matter what he writes in a book he just can not relate to our struggles.
Why don't men write a relationship blue print manuel for men, it's seem men need more help in that department??
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Permalink Reply by Darrell Joyce on
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Truth, you gotta do it sometimes. People act like they need somebody else to teach them to be a better person, more aware, or knowledgeable about the opposite sex, when, if you don't figure that mess around the time you get a diploma or degree, you ain't trying to find out. all i do is surround myself with people who are doing, or are just like what i want to be. It's that DAMN simple!
One out of my 20 or so close personal friends have a child out of wedlock. ONE!
Many of us are entreprenurial in some fashion or another!
We hand each other books, give each other advice, you name it.
Weak ass black men are often surrounded by other weak ass black men. STOP F*UCKING 'EM WITHOUT A COMDON!
Worthless ass black women surround themselves with worthless black women. A woman with 5 kids by 5 men is best friends with a chick with 4. It's simple math! Reasonable deduction!
Truth hurts, as your name implies, and most people don't want that.
A few people on this board have my book, know my personality and so on, and they will tell you that, if you pick any book of my up and read it for a minute, you hate my ass. Then, ..you start to see that, for the most part, it's true. It all comes back to you, what you do, and who you allow into your life. Personal accountabiltiy.
One love, Truth!
TheTruthForReal said:well darrell, just speak how you feel it....lol!
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Permalink Reply by SeriousPage on
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Yo D it took almost aweek of posts to find someone willing to get down and dirty,welcome .
Darrell Joyce said:Truth, you gotta do it sometimes. People act like they need somebody else to teach them to be a better person, more aware, or knowledgeable about the opposite sex, when, if you don't figure that mess around the time you get a diploma or degree, you ain't trying to find out. all i do is surround myself with people who are doing, or are just like what i want to be. It's that DAMN simple!
One out of my 20 or so close personal friends have a child out of wedlock. ONE!
Many of us are entreprenurial in some fashion or another!
We hand each other books, give each other advice, you name it.
Weak ass black men are often surrounded by other weak ass black men. STOP F*UCKING 'EM WITHOUT A COMDON!
Worthless ass black women surround themselves with worthless black women. A woman with 5 kids by 5 men is best friends with a chick with 4. It's simple math! Reasonable deduction!
Truth hurts, as your name implies, and most people don't want that.
A few people on this board have my book, know my personality and so on, and they will tell you that, if you pick any book of my up and read it for a minute, you hate my ass. Then, ..you start to see that, for the most part, it's true. It all comes back to you, what you do, and who you allow into your life. Personal accountabiltiy.
One love, Truth!
TheTruthForReal said:well darrell, just speak how you feel it....lol!
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Permalink Reply by Frantrele on -
Maybe I should have said I! :) I knew the guy was a asshole, but I still talked to him anyway. It actually happened not too long ago...it lasted for almost two years. I will only speak for myself this time! I know what a guy is all about when I first meet him, but sometimes there is something about him that is intriguing that would keep me wanting to talk to him even though I don't see myself with him romantically. Almost every woman has a hope for change...and it could eventually leave her disappointed in the end.
SeriousPage said:If women know the moment they meet us , explain why you guys always end up on the short end of the stick. This would indicate women are more simple than men as you are always crying to your girlfriends he is a beast
Frantrele said:I skimmed through it...it was basically nothing I didn't know already. As for you saying that a guy knows the title of a woman after 6 months...we know the moment we meet a guy. Men are simple creatures and women only need common sense to figure them out. A book won't help.
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Permalink Reply by TheTruthForReal on
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real talk....
Darrell Joyce said:Truth, you gotta do it sometimes. People act like they need somebody else to teach them to be a better person, more aware, or knowledgeable about the opposite sex, when, if you don't figure that mess around the time you get a diploma or degree, you ain't trying to find out. all i do is surround myself with people who are doing, or are just like what i want to be. It's that DAMN simple!
One out of my 20 or so close personal friends have a child out of wedlock. ONE!
Many of us are entreprenurial in some fashion or another!
We hand each other books, give each other advice, you name it.
Weak ass black men are often surrounded by other weak ass black men. STOP F*UCKING 'EM WITHOUT A COMDON!
Worthless ass black women surround themselves with worthless black women. A woman with 5 kids by 5 men is best friends with a chick with 4. It's simple math! Reasonable deduction!
Truth hurts, as your name implies, and most people don't want that.
A few people on this board have my book, know my personality and so on, and they will tell you that, if you pick any book of my up and read it for a minute, you hate my ass. Then, ..you start to see that, for the most part, it's true. It all comes back to you, what you do, and who you allow into your life. Personal accountabiltiy.
One love, Truth!
TheTruthForReal said:well darrell, just speak how you feel it....lol!
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Permalink Reply by Can't Complain on -
sounds familiar
Frantrele said:Maybe I should have said I! :) I knew the guy was a asshole, but I still talked to him anyway. It actually happened not too long ago...it lasted for almost two years. I will only speak for myself this time! I know what a guy is all about when I first meet him, but sometimes there is something about him that is intriguing that would keep me wanting to talk to him even though I don't see myself with him romantically. Almost every woman has a hope for change...and it could eventually leave her disappointed in the end.
SeriousPage said:If women know the moment they meet us , explain why you guys always end up on the short end of the stick. This would indicate women are more simple than men as you are always crying to your girlfriends he is a beast
Frantrele said:I skimmed through it...it was basically nothing I didn't know already. As for you saying that a guy knows the title of a woman after 6 months...we know the moment we meet a guy. Men are simple creatures and women only need common sense to figure them out. A book won't help.
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Permalink Reply by rose on
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I have no options than letting you Know that I am interested in having a relationship with you, I will also like to Know you the more, you can send an email to my email address (rose1jones33@yahoo.com) so that I can send you more details about me.
please write to me on my email address that wiull enable me to explain my self to you and i wil also send you my pictures.
I believe we can move from here. But bear in mind that Love has no colors barrier, no educational back ground barrier, no socio,economic Barrier, religious, language, nationality or distance barrier, the only important Thing there is love,
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